postiamo un po di stud8...per la gioia del capo Pakito

@ pakito, ho investito 50€ conscio del fatto che con questo oppo avrei avuto perle da postare... se mi banni mi trovi sotto casa tua a vendere bomboloni all antrace...

1) Questa e' una mano sulla quale spesso perdo i massimi..alla ricerca del low
PokerStars Game #69064543885: Tournament #454454199, €46.40+€3.60 EUR 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (100/200) [AAMS ID: M2C161010A501CLE] - 2011/10/16 19:32:57 CET [2011/10/16 13:32:57 ET]
Table '454454199 1' 2-max
Seat 1: SuiTeD_CT (1405 in chips)
Seat 2: 18samuel18 (1595 in chips)
SuiTeD_CT: posts the ante 20
18samuel18: posts the ante 20
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ]
SuiTeD_CT: brings in for 30
18samuel18: raises 70 to 100
SuiTeD_CT: raises 100 to 200
18samuel18: calls 100
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
18samuel18: checks
SuiTeD_CT: bets 100
18samuel18: calls 100
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [ ] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
18samuel18: bets 200
SuiTeD_CT: calls 200
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [ ] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
18samuel18: bets 200
SuiTeD_CT: calls 200
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
18samuel18: bets 200
SuiTeD_CT: calls 200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
18samuel18: shows [ ] (HI: three of a kind, Sevens; LO: 7,6,4,2,A)
SuiTeD_CT: mucks hand
18samuel18 collected 920 from pot
18samuel18 collected 920 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1840 | Rake 0
Seat 1: SuiTeD_CT mucked [ ]
Seat 2: 18samuel18 showed [ ] and won (1840) with HI: three of a kind, Sevens; LO: 7,6,4,2,A

La mano dopo la quarta e' standard... il problema e' solo la quarta... il fold lo escludiamo... call o RAISE ? se chiudo low... minimo vinco mezzo piatto... e per i piu esperti.. avessi preso 76a 2 k 9...per dire... mollate prima o cercate il low fino alla fine ormai che siete entrati nella mano??

2) sempre la quarta il mio problema... call o RAISE? ah non ho dato info su oppo tanto lo conoscete benissimo

PokerStars Game #69063922003: Tournament #454454199, €46.40+€3.60 EUR 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit - Match Round I, Level II (50/100) [AAMS ID: M2C161010A501CLE] - 2011/10/16 19:22:05 CET [2011/10/16 13:22:05 ET]
Table '454454199 1' 2-max
Seat 1: SuiTeD_CT (1205 in chips)
Seat 2: 18samuel18 (1795 in chips)
SuiTeD_CT: posts the ante 10
18samuel18: posts the ante 10
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ]
SuiTeD_CT: brings in for 15
18samuel18: calls 15
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: bets 50
18samuel18: calls 50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [ ] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: bets 100
18samuel18: raises 100 to 200
SuiTeD_CT: calls 100
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [ ] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: checks
18samuel18: bets 100
SuiTeD_CT: calls 100
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: checks
18samuel18: bets 100
SuiTeD_CT: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
18samuel18: shows [ ] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,7,4,3,A)
SuiTeD_CT: mucks hand
18samuel18 collected 475 from pot
18samuel18 collected 475 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 950 | Rake 0
Seat 1: SuiTeD_CT mucked [ ]
Seat 2: 18samuel18 showed [ ] and won (950) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,7,4,3,A

3) FOLDO quarta, sesta o vado?
PokerStars Game #69064005806: Tournament #454454199, €46.40+€3.60 EUR 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit - Match Round I, Level II (50/100) [AAMS ID: M2C161010A501CLE] - 2011/10/16 19:23:33 CET [2011/10/16 13:23:33 ET]
Table '454454199 1' 2-max
Seat 1: SuiTeD_CT (1180 in chips)
Seat 2: 18samuel18 (1820 in chips)
SuiTeD_CT: posts the ante 10
18samuel18: posts the ante 10
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ]
18samuel18: brings in for 15
SuiTeD_CT: raises 35 to 50
18samuel18: calls 35
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: bets 50
18samuel18: calls 50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [ ] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: bets 100
18samuel18: calls 100
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to SuiTeD_CT [ ] []
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: bets 100
18samuel18: calls 100
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to 18samuel18 [ ] []
SuiTeD_CT: checks
18samuel18: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SuiTeD_CT: shows [ ] (HI: a pair of Tens)
18samuel18: mucks hand
SuiTeD_CT collected 620 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 620 | Rake 0
Seat 1: SuiTeD_CT showed [ ] and won (620) with HI: a pair of Tens
Seat 2: 18samuel18 mucked [ ]

Prima mano: in 4th bet/call
Seconda mano: Va bene call in 4th
Terza mano: Se foldi..foldi in 5th che almeno non perdi una puntata doppia.in 4th non ha senso imo

prima mano standard in 4th ci sta sia il call che il raise hai 20% per hi e 75% per low quindi 55% di equity il problema e' come giochi la mano dopo se raisi 4th e poi prendi brick in 5th la tua mano ha equity al 30% o sotto...e' solo questione di stile se call o raise.
seconda mano in 4th sei piu' favorito rispetto a prima quindi il raise ci sta tutto
per la terza mano dovresti prima dire su che range mettevi oppo

dddesmo90 ha scritto:prima mano standard in 4th ci sta sia il call che il raise hai 20% per hi e 75% per low quindi 55% di equity il problema e' come giochi la mano dopo se raisi 4th e poi prendi brick in 5th la tua mano ha equity al 30% o sotto...e' solo questione di stile se call o raise.
seconda mano in 4th sei piu' favorito rispetto a prima quindi il raise ci sta tutto
per la terza mano dovresti prima dire su che range mettevi oppo

putroppo nella terza.. con A esposto raisa 100% quindi puo avere tris come essere bianco, quindi sono abbastanza alla ceca

allora non puoi foldare